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color:#1F497D'>A lot of the good passes Juice throws – the ones caught in
stride that actually have yards after the catch – seem to be caught by Benn. So
is that because he’s so fast he can adjust to Juice’s throwing errors and other
receivers can’t?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oskee-bounces@heins.net
[mailto:oskee-bounces@heins.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Livengood<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2009 9:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fighting Illini Sports Enthusiasts List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oskee] Juice benched<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Right,
but supposedly Zook left Juice in against PSU so he could "play through
it", i.e. find his game on the field. So he does that, even though some of
it's in garbage time, and NOW you bench him? Doesn't make any sense to me. If
you're going to make that change, should have been done long ago.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Todd Sweet <trsweet@ilstu.edu<br>
<b>To:</b> Fighting Illini Sports Enthusiasts List <oskee@heins.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 5, 2009 9:52:26 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oskee] Juice benched</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'>Well, that’s true, he did have a few good passes downfield (which I
agree is one of his strengths). But without putting points on the board,
those yards are almost as meaningless as the 2 TDs were at the end of the game.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Which brings me to another issue this team clearly has…and this has
nothing to do with Juice. But the stupid penalties are driving me
nuts. And to me, that gets back to the coaching issues.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'>TS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>ON a sidenote…it’s nice to see some chatter on the list again!!!!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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oskee-bounces@heins.net [mailto:oskee-bounces@heins.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John
Livengood<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2009 8:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fighting Illini Sports Enthusiasts List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oskee] Juice benched</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Actually,
more than half of Juice's yardage came in the first half, and much of that in
the 2nd quarter when they actually had him throwing the ball down field! I
agree his TDs were meaningless, but disagree that he didn't play well. When he
was given opportunities to utilize his abilities, he did well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Todd Sweet <trsweet@ilstu.edu><br>
<b>To:</b> Fighting Illini Sports Enthusiasts List <oskee@heins.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 5, 2009 9:13:19 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oskee] Juice benched</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'>I agree with you, JL, that Eddie (like Juice) shows flashes of
greatness, and then makes stupid turnovers. I’m not sure he’s the answer
either. What I disagree with is you comment that Juice had a somewhat
good game. Many of his throws were behind the receivers. And most
of his production came in the 4<sup>th</sup> quarter. If McGee had come
and scored 2 tds late in that game, everyone would have discounted them saying
he got them during trash time. That’s when Juice got his as well.
PSU playing soft to run out the clock and probably with 2<sup>nd</sup> and 3<sup>rd</sup>
stringers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I do agree that Juice has had to deal with the toughest part of the
schedule. Maybe it isn’t fair to pull him now. But he doesn’t look
like someone ready to confidently lead this offense at this time, so maybe this
will shake things up. All I know is I’ve watched way too many football
debacles since Macovic left town. It’s embarrassing that a school with some
very rich football history can’t at least muster up a mid level bowl game every
couple of years.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>And let’s not forget who is responsible for putting this brutal
schedule together this season. Cincy may turn out to be the best team we
play all year. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'>TS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
oskee-bounces@heins.net [mailto:oskee-bounces@heins.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John
Livengood<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2009 7:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fighting Illini Sports Enthusiasts List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oskee] Juice benched</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Also
meant to add, I think the real problem has been not using Juice's strengths,
which are running the option and throwing more down field. I realize teams are
taking away the long passes by sitting back in deep zones, but the option's
been working yet we don't run it much. Run that until they stop it, then see if
the safeties might be vulnerable to some passes. But to keep trying to make
Juice into a ball control, short passing QB wasn't going to work out.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Robert Mingee <mingee@swbell.net><br>
<b>To:</b> oskee@heins.net<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 5, 2009 5:31:10 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Oskee] Juice benched</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'm
sure you've all seen the story by now that Juice has been benched (though
curiously it is not reported on <a href="http://fightingillini.com"
target="_blank">fightingillini.com</a>). Opinions? Personally, I
don't see how you can possibly pin the losses on him entirely, but as the team
leader, he's ultimately responsible, and I can't really blame Zook for wanting
to shake things up. As with last year, consistency continues to be his
biggest problem -- he's either really on or really off. I was really shocked
to read how bad his stats are, though -- it didn't seem that bad from watching.<br>
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>From a purely pragmatic perspective, this season is over before it even
really started -- I don't see any way for this team to make a bowl. Yes,
they have faced tough competition, but it's not really going to get much
easier, and I just don't see any spark on this team. It's like they're
going through the motions. There just doesn't seem to be any hope of them
beating a team that's better than they are, because they are so lacking in
intangibles. The defense can be exciting at times, but it's so
inexperienced. And the offense continues to be so much less than the sum
of its parts, for whatever reason. So I guess there's really nothing much
to lose, except further demoralizing Juice, which really is regrettable.
He seems like a decent kid, and he's done some amazing work in his career, but
he's just not getting it done. If there's any hope for next year, it's
getting Eddie some solid experience in this offense.<br>
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Sigh. When does basketball season start again?<br>
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-- robert</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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