[Oskee] Ouch - Is Weber another Turner?

Anthony L Hooker hooker at cs.uiuc.edu
Tue Jul 17 12:34:57 EDT 2007


So, you're basically saying that because one kid changed his mind, we
should throw Weber under the bus?  If IDKWTI had stayed true to his
commitment, we wouldn't be having this discussion, period.  Shumpert
hasn't committed.  Suggs hasn't committed. Miller hasn't committed.
They may all go elsewhere, but they haven't YET.  He won 23 games last
year with half his team in the infirmary and you want wholesale change
because he's missed on some high profile recruits?  

They didn't offer Humphrey last year because his play didn't warrant an
offer, and he felt slighted.  I say too bad for him.     

In closing, I think we should at least see McCamey, Watkins, Alexander,
et al. play collegiately before deciding that he's not getting the job
done on the recruiting front.  I think we're going to be pleasantly
surprised by how good they are.  

    
-----Original Message-----
From: oskee-bounces at heins.net [mailto:oskee-bounces at heins.net] On Behalf
Of Chad Kahl
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:27 AM
To: oskee at heins.net
Subject: [Oskee] Ouch - Is Weber another Turner?

I want to post this thought here, rather than throw more bait into the
pack 
of hyenas on Orange and Blue...

I keep hearing that the class of 2009 and 2010 are going to be great,
but 
isn't that what we've been hearing as Weber misses top target after top 
target?

Between the style of play we saw last season where it got to the point I
had 
to make myself watch the games and the inability to land top recruits 
(Jereme Richmond is a long ways off), I'm really starting to worry.

I know Weber's Xs and Os are top notch, but something has to change when
it 
comes to recruiting.  We have to start landing the top ten/twenty type
of 
player.

My fear when Weber started was that we were going to become another
Purdue.  
I envied their success year in and year out, but they rarely did
anything in 
the tourney, because they rarely had the top, top shelf talent.

Weber needs to change his staff and figure out what he's doing wrong, 
because the list is growing, with Dunigan and Schumpert (Humphrey is
good, 
but not great) added to Gordon, Collins, Wright, Rose...  While a number
of 
them may have taken a deal during recruitment, the guys we just lost out
on 
where the type of young men and stable families that were supposed to
end 
Weber's dry spell.  I also heard that Weber needed time to establish 
himself, because we did not have the track records of Duke, North
Carolina, 
etc.  However, the recent guys had Weber on their trail from the start
and 
they recognized the Illini staff for that.

Before everyone starts mentioning all the recent recruits at me, just 
remember that most of them are in the 75-150 range.  That's great, but
you 
need the occasional great player and Weber has failed miserably at 
recruiting them to Illini.

I'm really at a loss.  You can't possibly fire someone with his track
record 
on the court, but he also will have difficulty sustaining Illinois'
program 
if he can't land the elite players (before the 2010 class).

Chad, AKA UofIx3

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